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Constantius II - Rome - SECVRITAS REIP

Started by Joshmaggosh, June 24, 2017, 11:01:12 PM

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Joshmaggosh

Hello!
Not too long ago I bought a very cool Constantius II - Rome - SECVRITAS REIP from Victor. (Pictured)

One of the things I like to do when I get a coin is to learn as much about it as I can. I don't own RIC but I do like to understand what differentiates a coin of one RIC number from others of the same type.

My question is... I've noticed (Wildwinds, coinproject, others) that there are several RIC numbers for very similar Constantius II - Rome - SECVRITAS REIP coins: RIC 9, 12, 15, 33 maybe others.

What are the differences between these coins? In the descriptions I've been finding, I'm not seeing the difference. Thank you!

My coin:
Constantius II
A.D. 337-340
15x16mm   1.8gm
D N FL CONST-ANTIVS P F AVG; laurel and rosette diadem, draped, cuirassed bust right
SECVRITAS REI P; Securitas standing facing, legs crossed, head turned right, holding sceptre in right hand,left elbow leaning on column.
In ex. R k S
RIC VIII Rome 9

Victor

there are a few differences between each --

RIC 9-- has an obverse legend with break of  D N FL CONST-ANTIVS P F AVG and reverse break of SECVRI-TAS

RIC 12-- has an obverse legend without break  D N FL CONSTANTIVS P F AVG and reverse break of SECVRI-TAS

RIC 15 -- has an obverse legend without break  D N FL CONSTANTIVS P F AVG and a reverse legend without a break in SECVRITAS.


RIC 33-- has a reverse legend of SECVRITAS REI P but a different series with mintmark--  R angled palm branch P

Joshmaggosh

Ahh, I see! I can also see that it would appear likely that my coin has those legend breaks described as RIC 9. Thank for for that information!

Victor

RIC VIII demonstrates one end of the scale of "lumper vs. splitter" which are "opposing factions in any discipline that has to place individual examples into rigorously defined categories"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumpers_and_splitters

Lumpers will make large groups that include everything. RIC Vi is a good example of this. Multiple bust types and mintmarks are the same RIC number, with no mention of reverse legend breaks. RIC V is very much out of date, and the lack of precision can be confusing. RIC VII is more middle of the road- it notes possible legend breaks, but usually does not give them separate RIC numbers. RIC VIII splits almost everything, giving coins with small differences a separate RIC number...check out the FEL TEMP sections for major splitting and more headaches.

I can appreciate this minute attention to detail, but separate catalogue numbers for each tiny difference can be confusing and perhaps unnecessary. However, there might be a reason to give legend breaks, and other differences, different RIC numbers -- besides nitpicking. Differences might represent different times a series was struck. In short runs this is not so important, but for issues that span a few years, this could be important and could help establish a chronological order to the issues...if that is important- which is another argument.