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Started by Roety, November 14, 2018, 12:24:25 AM

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Roety

I have been a coin collector since I was a kid, but never collected ancient coins.  November 4th I purchased three coins see photos.
They are still enroute to me,   since then have bought a few low quality ones and been reading on this forum and others about all the Fakes being sold.
So I'm thinking they are probably Fakes, but from the photos I can't tell
Victor linked the fake seller list for me (this seller only sold these coins and is not on any list) .
Please tell me if you can tell from the photos and ebay link what you think?
and how can I test them to see if they are silver or Tin without damaging them.
The seller said "guaranteed authentic"  .  In the last ten days I have seen how many nice looking Fakes are being sold and figured I better ask some experts.
I can return them if they are Fake, but I want to make sure. 
any help appreciated

https://www.ebay.com/itm/GETA-211AD-EF-Denarius-AVG-Guaranteed-Authentic-Ancient-Silver-Coin/123456394639?hash=item1cbe93158f:g:9jQAAOSwKQFb1hF-

Victor


It can be very difficult, even impossible, to authenticate ancient coins from a picture, but I see no reason to believe that these coins are not authentic. Most ancients that are sold are authentic, thankfully the people that sell fakes only account for a small percentage on eBay.

Roety

Tracking # seems stuck somewhere out west.  The fact that the seller had four coins all in nice condition with the same finish seems to be a bad clue. 
But am gonna deal with it if and when they get here.   
If they are Tourist copies I just want to pay what they are really worth. 
Recently I was looking at Drachmas with the owl on the reverse and saw on Etsy   someone is selling them as copies in Tin for $9.98 each plus shipping or in silver for $59 each.  these fine looking pieces are at least Being sold as Copies.  Probably Casts .  Since I can't afford a real one in nice shape a $15 shipped copy in Tin  is appealing.  Real silver even better (for my Black collection)
I'll post side photos of these ebay coins if they ever get here
Thanks

Pharsalus

Based on the photos, I also think they look authentic. The Caracalla in particular is a nice looking coin.
There are a lot of fake ancients, but most of them aren't very convincing if you can just get a little experience. Its fair to say most very deceptive fakes are restricted to more expensive coins. eBay can be a bit of a minefield for new collectors; not just for fakes but also for price. Spend some time just browsing Vcoins, CNG coins etc and you'll soon get a feel for what real ancients look like. You'll then see most of these fake/reproductions are laughably obvious.

Roety

I received them and they are silver (test a rubbed edge on stone and acid),  they look struck not cast.  the front of two looks  uncirculated to me.  that's why I was suspicious , but I will keep them.  I just bought a bunch of Romas ($70 each) ,  a few Gold ($300 and $135)and a 100 bronze ones ($2 each)
Question on a different note:
I saw a reputable  auction house selling coins and some  said "eastern European imitations " (are they fakes?)   I researched and see many listed like that. 
here is one that says "imitation"  and sold for $670.   https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/c_j_martin_coins/97/product/imitation_of_alexander_the_great_ar_tetradrachm_eastern_europe/917986/Default.aspx


I am assuming they are not fakes but the eastern Europe imitated the roman coins.
I can not find a clarification of this topic using google. 
any insight appreciated


Victor


The term imitation just means that a coin is not an official product, but it is contemporary, so not a fake. Unofficial coinage is actually fairly common.

I have a page about this, but it mainly concerns the 4th century.

http://www.constantinethegreatcoins.com/barb2/