Late Roman Bronze Coins

Coin talk => Late Roman Bronze coins => Topic started by: Heliodromus on December 18, 2021, 02:52:56 PM

Title: Uncleaned Constantine medallion
Post by: Heliodromus on December 18, 2021, 02:52:56 PM
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RIC VII Rome 209
38mm 33.53g

This coin just sold in Bucephalus' inaugral auction for $1939 (with fees). Not to me. It had a very low estimate and I was hoping it might be regarded as a cast and go cheap, but no such luck.

It appears to be genuine, with a thickish layer of clay/mineral deposits on the bust which may be hiding some nice detail. Presumably the hole goes all the way through (assuming it's genuine).

Title: Re: Uncleaned Constantine medallion
Post by: Victor on December 18, 2021, 03:11:08 PM
Yes, it might clean up nicely.
Title: Re: Uncleaned Constantine medallion
Post by: Nikko on December 19, 2021, 12:09:03 PM
There are some cleaning scratches on the obverse. It could be a really hard work cleansing this medallion.... But I will no surprise if it appears on a major auction auction within few months.

I don't know if the hammer price a a reasonable one, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Uncleaned Constantine medallion
Post by: Heliodromus on December 19, 2021, 12:31:48 PM
QuoteI don't know if the hammer price a a reasonable one, doesn't it?

It seems reasonable. Constantine's bronze medallions do sometimes sell for oddly low prices, but depending who bought it I also expect this may reappear soon in cleaned form, and would expect the price could at least double.

On a related note, I have this cast copy of a different medallion, RIC 279, in my collection, which is dated to Rome 326 AD same as the above one. I paid $103 for this back in 2007.

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You can see the filled holes on mine, and from this I was recently able to identify the original it was copied from, which is in the Florence Archeological Museum.

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What's interesting is that there have been two other cast copies of this Florence one (note same filled holes), that sold for way more money. I wonder if the buyers thought they were buying repaired originals rather than casts ?!

This one sold for $2407 in M&M 14 (2004), with the description noting the plugged holes.

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This one sold for a whopping EUR 5500 in Artemide's 12-16-2006 auction.

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In comparison this genuine gilt one sold for only $4800 in CNG's Triton VIII in 2005.

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