Late Roman Bronze Coins

Coin talk => COTD => Topic started by: Victor on September 15, 2020, 11:41:18 AM

Title: Diocletian VICTORIAE SARMATICAE campgate from Nicomedia
Post by: Victor on September 15, 2020, 11:41:18 AM
Not bronze, but it's still a neat campgate. It celebrates a victory against the Sarmatians, who would not be DEVICTA until Constantine handled it. The turrets have eagles on them.

What I thought was interesting was that this coin ended up on eBay and the route it took. The first auction listing I found for it was 2012 from Lanz where it was unsold with an 800 EUR estimate. The next auction was Gitbud & Naumann in 2013 where it sold for $710. The last auction was Gadoury in 2015 where it sold for $753. On eBay, in 2020, it only sold for $376.55...how the mighty have fallen!


Diocletian
A.D. 295
AR Argenteus
19mm   3.3g
DIOCLETIANVS AVG; laureate head right.
VICTORIAE SARMATICAE; four turreted camp-gate, open, with doors thrown back; each turret surmounted by facing eagle.
In ex. SMNĪ“
RIC VI Nicomedia 22a
Title: Re: Diocletian VICTORIAE SARMATICAE campgate from Nicomedia
Post by: tjaart on September 15, 2020, 02:18:06 PM
Nice coin! I did not even see that one on ebay.
Title: Re: Diocletian VICTORIAE SARMATICAE campgate from Nicomedia
Post by: Heliodromus on September 15, 2020, 04:51:10 PM
Nice catch!

It goes in other direction too ... saw a "LON" nummus sell end of last year on eBay for $250 then few months later same coin sells at UK auction house "from the collection of a gentleman" for $1500 ! ::)
Title: Re: Diocletian VICTORIAE SARMATICAE campgate from Nicomedia
Post by: Victor on September 15, 2020, 05:48:57 PM
I plan on keeping this one for a while, but maybe when my coins are eventually sold, this one will also be described as "from the collection of a gentleman"  ;D

it's a shame what the seller did to this coin, but I will be cracking it open as soon as I get it.

Title: Re: Diocletian VICTORIAE SARMATICAE campgate from Nicomedia
Post by: Victor on September 05, 2021, 11:31:39 AM

I was playing around with acsearch's image search service and used my photo of the coin and it actually returned the three auction results that I posted about above. If you are someone that likes to research past auctions for provenance, it may be worth a shot. I think it costs about a dollar each search. Interestingly, the last two matches were not very strong, due to differences in the pictures.

Title: Re: Diocletian VICTORIAE SARMATICAE campgate from Nicomedia
Post by: tjaart on September 07, 2021, 02:50:07 PM
I am glad to see that acsearch's image search works. I tried it for my only Aes grave as I lack any provenance whatsoever but unfortunately nothing popped up for me. These days for more expensive items I tend to ask and look for some provenance but it seems most major auction houses either refuse to give it or ignore any ideas around potentially providing it.
Title: Re: Diocletian VICTORIAE SARMATICAE campgate from Nicomedia
Post by: Victor on September 07, 2021, 02:59:38 PM

Sometimes auction houses don't give provenance because they don't want customers knowing where they get their coins and sometimes it is because consignors don't want the info out.