Late Roman Bronze Coins

Coin talk => Fakes => Topic started by: Victor on April 06, 2018, 11:34:56 AM

Title: Valentinian III KA TRA campgate
Post by: Victor on April 06, 2018, 11:34:56 AM

here's a campgate which is probably unofficial; though this period had some pretty sloppy coins. It is a Valentinian III CASTRA (cf RIC X 2160) except the reverse legend is KA TRA       13mm   1.25gm
Title: Re: Valentinian III KA TRA campgate
Post by: Factor on April 06, 2018, 11:40:39 AM
Seems suspicious to me, more resembling in style Serbian counterfeits. In any case definitely not official.
Title: Re: Valentinian III KA TRA campgate
Post by: tjaart on April 06, 2018, 11:45:25 AM
Hi Factor, the style does seems suspicious. Do you have a link to the Serbian fakes you mentioned?
Title: Re: Valentinian III KA TRA campgate
Post by: Victor on April 06, 2018, 12:29:04 PM
I was at first not sure about this coin and could still be wrong, but the obverse looks fine. The reverse looks a bit strange but it closely resembles an example that sold in 2008-- note the same speling of the reverse legend and the distinctive style of the star. However, to play devil's advocate, a modern die maker could have easily copied the style of the coin below.

Title: Re: Valentinian III KA TRA campgate
Post by: tjaart on April 07, 2018, 05:38:47 PM
Interesting example, Victor. Makes me wonder as well. Is the first coin for sale somewhere?
Title: Re: Valentinian III KA TRA campgate
Post by: Victor on April 07, 2018, 06:08:07 PM
I bought the first one. I am hoping that it looks okay in hand. I am on the lookout for more examples- if they start showing up, then it is easy enough to figure it is modern.
Title: Re: Valentinian III KA TRA campgate
Post by: Factor on April 11, 2018, 01:13:09 PM
Quote from: tjaart on April 06, 2018, 11:45:25 AM
Hi Factor, the style does seems suspicious. Do you have a link to the Serbian fakes you mentioned?

See what this guy is offering, and his sold items. Many V century fakes, typical.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/historiamagistravitaeest/m.html?item=183166037623&ul_noapp=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
Title: Re: Valentinian III KA TRA campgate
Post by: Victor on April 11, 2018, 05:38:43 PM
I am inclined to believe that the campgate is fake. I have been watching the seller for a while and he has been mainly selling LRB's but this week listed several obviously fake coins. I added him to the fake sellers list.

Below are two, though he does say the Galba is not original.


https://www.ebay.com/usr/constantinus026