Late Roman Bronze Coins

Coin talk => Identification => Topic started by: Nikko on September 16, 2023, 11:53:50 AM

Title: VLPP from Siscia, decorated shield
Post by: Nikko on September 16, 2023, 11:53:50 AM

Dear Victor, dear all
I have a few doubts about the correct RIC reference of this coin.
My guess is RIC 50, BSIS* in exergue.
Am I right?
Thanks
Nicola

Title: Re: VLPP from Siscia, decorated shield
Post by: Victor on September 16, 2023, 12:48:19 PM

If there is a star (which is not clear to me) it is RIC 50. If no star, it is RIC 56.

Title: Re: VLPP from Siscia, decorated shield
Post by: Lech Stępniewski on September 16, 2023, 05:08:32 PM

Could be also dot = SISCIA 61

Title: Re: VLPP from Siscia, decorated shield
Post by: Victor on September 16, 2023, 06:10:21 PM

Siscia 61 does sometimes have decorated shields, but the flan on this coin looks like the earlier issues. The earlier issues (RIC 47-56) are on a small (and thicker) flan with a small portrait and have a higher relief. As the issues continue, the flans and portrait become larger (the flan is also thinner) and the relief is smaller.

Title: Re: VLPP from Siscia, decorated shield
Post by: Nikko on September 16, 2023, 06:50:19 PM

Thanks Lech, thanks Victor. Those are the kind of infos I would have to better ID my coins. I can confirm your impression: a small flan. I think the altar design could also help me.

Title: Re: VLPP from Siscia, decorated shield
Post by: Victor on September 16, 2023, 07:35:32 PM

Yes, the X is an earlier altar design; though RIC 50 and 56 have it. I only recall RIC 61 with a dot on altar.

Title: Re: VLPP from Siscia, decorated shield
Post by: Lech Stępniewski on September 17, 2023, 05:24:03 AM

Quote from: Victor on September 16, 2023, 07:35:32 PM

I only recall RIC 61 with a dot on altar.

X is also not unusual. I don't have RIC 61 on my page because it is listed with all officinae. But there is also a quite common unlisted variety with bust H11.

Only few examples from officina B (total 13 ex.; 6 ex. with dot, 7 ex. with X)

(https://www.forumancientcoins.com/notinric/7sis-61_b_zoom.jpg)

(https://www.forumancientcoins.com/notinric/7sis-61_b_12.jpg)

This one with note ex Victor Clark  :)
(https://www.forumancientcoins.com/notinric/7sis-61_b_10.jpg)