Late Roman Bronze Coins
Coin talk => Unlisted => Topic started by: Victor on July 03, 2017, 02:40:56 PM
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this SOL INVICTO has SOL clothed with clamys over shoulder, verus the normally nude with clamys over shoulder.
the price surprised me though...$368.00.
I had a $210 bid in and thought it would be plenty...you just never know who is watching and wants a coin more than you do!
Constantinus I. AE-Follis Rom Sol
Kaiser: Constantinus I., 307-337 n.C.
Nominal: AE-Follis.
Stadt: Rom.
Vs.: IMP CONSTANTINVS PF AVG Bel. Buste des Kaisers nach rechts.
Rs.: SOLI INVICTO COMITI Sol steht im Mantel nach links, halt Globus und hebt die Hand, R S.
Erhaltung: gutes sehr schon, hochinteressanter Revers, braune Patina, selten.
3,00g, 19mm. Kamp.: 136.180.
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here's another example (not a reverse die match though) from the Suk El Kedim hoard (treasure of Misurata) 21mm 2.7gm
108,000 folles found in Libya in 1981. Mostly from A.D. 294- 333.
a link to a page that talks about why the fully clothed Sol versus the normally nude--
http://archeologos.ibam.cnr.it/il-sol-invictus-sotto-una-nuova-veste/
he brings up two possible reasons 1) modesty, maybe even a Christian engraver, or 2) Sol in a quadriga is always clothed (see second picture below), so perhaps copying more of an Eastern style of dress.
I think it is just copying the style of Sol in quadriga.
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Some links...
http://www.notinric.lechstepniewski.info/6rom323av_p.html
http://www.notinric.lechstepniewski.info/6rom323av_s.html
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thanks for the link...I didn't notice the one from the first workshop when it sold.
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The reverse from another workshop (an probably from another die cutter) makes this whole thing more interesting. Three different dies. It couldn't happen accidentally. I also don't believe in modest Christian engraver. Probably instructions were wrong or at least unclear.
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I don't understand why he wants to compare with the quadriga types while the Eastern Sol/Head of Serapis types are icongraphically closer ?
Il confronto più diretto, in questo caso, è con il Sole, rappresentato in veste di auriga (Helios) nelle emissioni di Antiochia.
(https://www.acsearch.info/media/images/archive/74/3986/4034447.m.jpg)
(https://www.acsearch.info/media/images/archive/83/3828/3885890.m.jpg)
(https://www.acsearch.info/media/images/archive/54/3035/3149481.m.jpg)
(https://www.acsearch.info/media/images/archive/54/2899/2980406.m.jpg)
(https://www.acsearch.info/media/images/archive/80/1243/1025761.m.jpg)
What would be very interesting if the diameter of the coin that Victor shows is really 19mm, is that would made it struck after 313.
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I don't understand why he wants to compare with the quadriga types while the Eastern Sol/Head of Serapis types are icongraphically closer ?
That's a good question...he may not have been familiar with the type, though I would expect that the hoard had several.