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Unlisted / Re: Maximinus II SOLI INVICTAE from Antioch
« Last post by Heliodromus on May 11, 2024, 01:17:44 PM »
Here's a modern replica of a draco standard, that gives an idea of what it probably sounded like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzZBJmcvqBU

They seem to be using a replica of the Niederbieber draco (from the Mainz Landesmuseum).
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Unlisted / Re: Maximinus II SOLI INVICTAE from Antioch
« Last post by Severus on May 11, 2024, 12:11:29 PM »
Here's another type from that issue -- slightly different bust type, but same shield decoration. Very much enjoy learning the additional detail about the dragon banners!

obv/MAXIMINVS NOB CAES, Laureate and mantled bust left, holding Victory on globe, holding shield decorated with riders carrying dragon banners, prisoners below

rev/MAXIMINVS NOBILISSIMVS CAESAR, Maximinus standing facing, head left, holding globe with Victory; star above altar to left; B in field; ANT in ex
 

RIC VI Antioch 135; 26mm; 7.1g
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COTD / Re: Constantine I MARTI CONSERVATORI from London
« Last post by Victor on May 11, 2024, 09:28:13 AM »
I have 3 duplicates; but otherwise, they are all different LMCC reference numbers.
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COTD / Re: Constantine I MARTI CONSERVATORI from London
« Last post by six2ten on May 11, 2024, 01:21:13 AM »
Nice!

83 different LMCC?
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COTD / Constantine I MARTI CONSERVATORI from London
« Last post by Victor on May 10, 2024, 11:29:16 AM »
this is coin #83 in my Constantine I coins from London.

 


Constantine I
A.D. 309- 311
23x24mm 4.1g
IMP CONSTANTINVS P F AVG; laureate and cuirassed bust right.
MARTI CONSERVATORI; Mars helmeted, in military dress, stdg. r. looking r., holding reversed spear, hand resting on shield; across fields T-F.
in ex. PLN
RIC VI London 118; LMCC 6.02.005
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COTD / Constantine I GENIO POPVLI ROMANI from Trier
« Last post by Victor on May 06, 2024, 04:22:00 PM »
I just recently got this one.

 


Constantine I
A.D. 305-307
28mm 9.9g
FL VAL CONSTANTINVS NOB C; laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right, seen from rear.
GENIO POPVLI ROMANI; Genius standing left, head towered, loins draped, right holding patera, left cornucopiae; S-F across fields.
In ex. PTR
RIC VI Trier 669b
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Unlisted / Re: Maximinus II SOLI INVICTAE from Antioch
« Last post by Heliodromus on May 02, 2024, 05:45:05 PM »
I tried to find Prof. Ehling's JNG article online (thanks for the reference), but it does not seem to be available.

While searching, I did gather that the only reference to an Armenian war comes from Eusebius, and is tied to an account of a horrific famine and plague that Eusebius has ravaging the eastern empire after the war, which Eusebius then echos in the demise of Daia due to starvation after his defeat by Licinius.

One might have thought that such divine retribution of famine and plague against Daia would also have been at least mentioned by Lactantius in his "On the death of the persecutors", but there is no mention of anything related other than mention of a food shortage caused by Daia's stockpiling (for his army?), which it seems may well be the only factual basis for Eusebius fantastical account of not just a famine but a plague as well!

There is a very enlightening discussion of this Eusebian account (from his Historia ecclesiastica) in this article "The Famine and Plague of Maximinus (311 to 312)" by Kennedy & DeVore.

https://muse.jhu.edu/article/885031/pdf

What this article appears to successfully show is that this account, and maybe by extension much of Eusebis' writing, is at least as much rhetorical as historical in nature, specifically following the rhetorical approach of the greek historian Thucydides, which allows and encourages wholesale fabrication of detail as long at it supports one's rhetorical goals!

I have to assume that Lactantius, also being an educated man, would have read Thucydides, and certainly been familiar with the contemporary norms of what could pass as "history" (or however such writing was regarded). Some of Daia's writing such as that of Galerius' putrefying private parts seems to come from the exact same school of rhetoric and "ekphrasis".

Anyway, given that Eusebius seems to have reimagined a localized food shortage as a regional famine and plague(!), it does rather bring to question what was the factual basis for Daia's Armenian war! I suppose there must have been something to base it on, but maybe a minor conflict rather than a major one, especially given that Eusebius is the sole source.
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Unlisted / Re: Maximinus II SOLI INVICTAE from Antioch
« Last post by Victor on May 02, 2024, 03:34:30 PM »
thanks for posting
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Unlisted / Re: Maximinus II SOLI INVICTAE from Antioch
« Last post by galeriusmaximinus on May 02, 2024, 02:47:45 PM »
You do find a similar issue with elaborate bust also for Galerius – but much rarer than those for Maximinus II.  See RIC VI 145a.  An example in Oxford is pictured in RIC, a further example is attached.  Note that Prof Ehling allocates these Antioch issues with elaborate busts and decorated shields to the victory of Maximinus Daia in the Armenian war 309/310 (see his article “Bilder aus dem Armenienkrieg des Maximinus Daia”, Jahrbuch für Numismatik und Geldgeschichte, 60 (2010) p.183-192).
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Unlisted / Maximinus II SOLI INVICTAE from Antioch
« Last post by Victor on May 01, 2024, 11:32:29 AM »
This coin is not in RIC, though quite a few examples are known--

https://www.notinric.lechstepniewski.info/6ant-144_b.html

 



Maximinus II
A.D. 310
Ӕ follis 26x27mm 5.9g
MAXIMINVS NOB CAES; bust l., helmeted [with gryphon crest] and cuirassed with gorgon on breast, spear over r. shoulder, shield decorated with two horsemen with draco standards and four prisoners on l. arm.
SOLI INVICTAE; Sol, rad. and in long robe, stg. facing, head l., r. raised, l. holding up globe, in facing quadriga; two horses turn l., and two right; in middle B.
In ex. ANT
cf. RIC VI Antioch 144


Though the mint of Antioch struck this type for Galerius and Maximinus; the obverse with the highly decorated armored bust was only struck for Maximinus II. Antioch was likely his principal residence from 309- 311, so not surprising this special type was struck there. This type may also have referenced the campaign against the Sassanids (not only the martial bust, but also battle scene on shield) waged by Maximinus (late 309-early 310) and perhaps also his desire to be named Augustus; which may have happened during the same campaign-- “at the last general muster he had been saluted by his army under the title of Augustus.” (Lactantius XXXII) Galerius recognized him as Augustus (mid 310) but since the troops of Maximinus had already raised him up, this was probably just a formality.


a bit from Ammianus Marcellinus on the draco standards carried by the horsemen on the shield-

"Behind the motley cavalcade that preceded him the emperor's person was surrounded by purple banners woven in the form of dragons and attached to the tops of gilded and jewelled spears; the breeze blew through their gaping jaws so that they seemed to be hissing with rage, and their voluminous tails streamed behind them on the wind." The Later Roman Empire book 16 10:7
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