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Quinarius of Diocletian.
« on: July 22, 2018, 02:12:50 PM »
Here is a quinarius of Diocletian that just sold for €225.
I would say the bust seems to come from Rome but the obverse legend is IMP C DIOCLETIANVS AVG and the reverse is only listed for Siscia and Lyon (Bastien #7).
May be, it is in King but unfortunately I don't have it.
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Re: Quinarius of Diocletian.
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2018, 03:58:22 PM »
It's a nice example, it's RIC Vii Siscia 283. Also in King, Siscia 2.

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Re: Quinarius of Diocletian.
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2018, 03:05:40 AM »
Don't you think the bust can also be draped (fibula and part of paludamentum on right shoulder) like the attached coins from Trier mint ?
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Re: Quinarius of Diocletian.
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2018, 12:58:12 PM »
that's a good question. for early Imperial coinage, there is a bust type with "slight drapery" over shoulder; so maybe LRB's should also have cuirassed with slight drapery over shoulder, or slight cloak over right shoulder.

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Re: Quinarius of Diocletian.
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2018, 01:34:46 PM »
It is what Bastien called naked bust with small fold of paludamentum on left shoulder (O2,O3,O*2,O*3) but he also described the B busts (B,B1,B*,B*1) as radiate/laureate with cuirass or cuirass and little fold of paludamentum like the attached one.
In fact, I assume that the previous busts I have attached have the cloak weared like a cape.
Is the King specimen illustrated ?

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Re: Quinarius of Diocletian.
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2018, 02:10:52 PM »
actually it is

2a does show a bit of cloak over the shoulder versus 1a which shows none.

2a looks like a die match with the example that just sold.


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Re: Quinarius of Diocletian.
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2018, 05:14:56 AM »
Die link indeed ! So, not unlisted !
But did she make a difference between 1a and 2a ?
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Re: Quinarius of Diocletian.
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2018, 08:34:57 AM »
I just noticed that 1a is a gold coin, but she calls both "laur. cuir. r."

2a is the same coin as RIC 283, it is first recorded by Alfodi in Numismatic Chronicle (1929) p 282- 3  #11.

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Re: Quinarius of Diocletian.
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2018, 11:05:43 AM »
Thank you.
So, laureate, cuirassed, right.
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